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It's a shame

It's a shame it'll get repainted/remolded like 5 times.

Daikengo's picture
Posted by Daikengo on 28 March, 2008 - 07:33

Not "like" 5...exactly 5 times! ;)

I mean, not that I'm interested in getting this figure, but if someone were interested in getting one, wouldn't they prefer to get all six G1 seekers? It seems only natural to have the whole lineup...or, at the very least, the first three seekers.

If they'd released all six seekers in the Classics format, I'd've been all over them (Taka-Tomy, are you listening!?).

Plus, I still don't get the whole "it's a shame..." thing when people anticipate repaints of figures. We seem to get into this discussion a lot. I just don't see the problem with have MORE options. Some people are completists and will want to get all of them. Fine. Some people (BigD, I'm looking at you) are nuts about particular characters (Skywarp). Perfect.

I say get what you like...who cares what other people get. More options are a good thing.


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Posted by Sanjeev on 28 March, 2008 - 08:32
my money is on a coronation

my money is on a coronation SS as well as a SunStorm taking the total up to 8 with quite a few being exclusives oh and a ghost SS so thats 9

Transformer and other robot art by me on my DA site

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Posted by Blitz on 28 March, 2008 - 09:54
They did release all six in

They did release all six in classics format, you just have to be willing to sell your soul and first born to get three of them.

Starscream and Ramjet were regular releases.

Skywarp was packed with Ultra Magnus in a Target exclusive set.

Thundercracker, Thrust, and Dirge were part of a Botcon package a year or two ago. Those were going for upwards of $500 back then, and there's no sign of a reissue.

I just got the Robot Masters version of the original three. Cheaper and better IMHO.

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Posted by duke togo on 28 March, 2008 - 11:03

Yeah, I forgot about the Botcon exclusives. Well, we were there at Botcon (as the precursor to the 2007 East Coast Summit). You couldn't PAY me $500 to wait in that line. F that noise.

Robot Masters, eh?


Sanjeev's picture
Posted by Sanjeev on 28 March, 2008 - 11:34
Not sure how many of you are

Not sure how many of you are of similar breed, but I tend to get 'sets' so as to be able to pose them in bunches. So getting a full set after getting the first one (provided it was good enough in the first place) is usually not far off.

Problem is when the $ is uber high (e.g. CM's alpha & beta fighters). I love mospeada, but getting all blue/green/red combo is just too expensive. Will definitely stop at one, just like my govt's one-child policy in the 80s & 90s.

Starscream might be an oddity though. Bec' its a cult figure and fan fav, some fans might just have a RT starscream irregardless of their current collections.

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Posted by bhchia on 30 March, 2008 - 08:43
The Robot Masters were sort

The Robot Masters were sort of a precursor to the Classics line. It tried to take a range of characters and give them a decent character toy that still transformed into the vehicle.

Starscream and Convoy were the only standouts in the line, the others were either repackaged Machine Wars or just lame designs. Later Takara made a nice e-hobby 2-pack of Thundercracker and Skywarp recolors of the Starscream mold.

They can be tough to source since they didn't go over well (understandable considering the other pieces in the line) but they've been knocked off almost perfectly for very cheap. They are almost identical to the classics in scale and design, but more toy-like than the classics.

Here's a review found on the web. (no affiliation)

The old Mega SCF Starscream has the cape and crown too.

duke togo's picture
Posted by duke togo on 28 March, 2008 - 12:59
RM Starscream

Thanks for the link to that review. If you didn't provide it, I woulda been too lazy to look the thing up! :P

And, of course, if it weren't for this discussion in the first place, I would never have been interested in learning more about these Robot Masters!

Anyway, I remember when these came out. I remember being thoroughly unimpressed with how they look. Unfortunately, I still think this holds true for me now. I think if someone were to do a side-by-side comparison of RM Starscream, Classics Starscream, and this RT, I think the Classics would come out on top. It looks VERY good in both modes--not quite as characterful in robot mode as the RT, but vastly superior in both modes to the RM, in my opinion...and, of course, the fact that it can transform *at all* makes it superior to the RT.

Hell, I've been saying that if they just took the Classics seeker design, blew it up to 1/48 scale, reinforced the joints, and added a little diecast, that would be the "Masterpiece" that would convince me to fork over $50+.


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Posted by Sanjeev on 29 March, 2008 - 15:15
Classics Starscream

While this looks nice, Classics Starscream is still tops for me. Revoltech TFs are a good scale/size match for that line.

I really liked the Rodimus and Starscreams from the Classics series so i don't feel a need to get these two.

I dislike how Revoltech is including less and less gear with each figure. Eliminating the extra heads and weapons makes that $15-20 price feel a little too much...

The Big R's picture
Posted by The Big R on 28 March, 2008 - 19:30
Thats not necessarily true.

Thats not necessarily true. The TFs in the Revoltech line have never had many accessories, while many new figures still have many.

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Posted by GogDog on 17 April, 2008 - 21:16
There are some that get

There are some that get bothered by all the hands and crap they have to keep track of after they display the toy. One thing about having all this stuff is now you've got boxes everywhere with extra hands and bits. I think maybe they just decided to include the bare essentials since the majority of people buying this wouldn't necessarily be toy people.

It also leaves room for a second release with other stuff. It wouldn't be the first time a toy got multiple releases with different parts, forcing some to buy both.

duke togo's picture
Posted by duke togo on 31 March, 2008 - 13:23