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MP-10 Masterpiece Convoy / Optimus Prime with Trailer - New Mold


16 comments posted
Less toy for more money.

Less toy for more money.

jacksauce's picture
Posted by jacksauce on 19 May, 2011 - 20:52
Then encourage...

Then it's our responsibility encourage others to NOT BUY IT.

Then, companies learn to not make overpriced crap.

People can rant and rave online all they want but the bottom line is, Takara won't change their QC or prices unless a big enough stink about it is made. The best way to make a stink and to show that this is too much $$ is to not buy them at all.

Since we as collectors tend to spend our extra cash on toys, companies assume that we're all rich and make massive $$$ and price some products accordingly.

Prices never, ever go down they only go up at retail for new products.

A perfect example of "don't buy it and they'll change" is Mattel and their DCUC line and MOTU Classics.
Mattel swore up and down that they would re-issue MOTU figures and keep prices reasonable since it's "online only and we don't have to pay retail distribution" and then kept feeding collectors a line of crap that these were "limited" and you should hang on their site to order re-issued figures because "we won't put them out again" - well guess what? Prices went up, service went even lower, and they kept re-issuing every figure when they sold out... And the QC got worse and worse... And in numerous Q&A's Mattel stated that the MOTUC figures were incredibly expensive to produce and that's why they cost $30 each for a scale and detail that just five years ago was under $10... they're probably using the increases to defend themselves against all the safety lawsuits. They also manipulate the sales numbers to make things appear "sold out" but then of course a big online retailer will have a case of 50 of them a couple months later, or they pop up in stock again for an hour or two... ??

Sales numbers for some of those MOTU re-issues were so low they suddenly decided to do the 2-packs with DCUC figures, also ones that were pretty low sellers... and for far less (2 figures for the price of one MOTU)... and now these sets are clogging the isles at my local stores... Also they had a superhero line called "infinite Heroes" which was vastly overpriced and people killed the line by not buying them.

Costs have gone up, to have gone up by 500% is 5-8 years? That is a straight up LIE and we should call them out on it. Toys are "luxury goods" so corporations are going to take advantage of that. It's easy to argue the price of milk or gas, but toys? You're "crazy" if you don't just shut up and pay for it...

Companies will lie to the consumer in order to make themselves be "your friends" and Takara/Tomy is no exception. This has been true for over two hundred years and in every culture and continent. This is why so many countries have laws which protect their citizens from fraud and price-gauging, because companies rarely do the right things by consumers unless forced to.

Their merger has been not-so-hot and they will do anything to regain the losses they're now getting from the FansProjects and other indie-start-ups. They blew them off for years but now even my local comic shop even regularly stocks FansProject and other KO TFs... and instantly sells out... and Target and TRU are pegs-full of non-movie TF that don't sell...

This is a complete rip on that FansProject small MP Prime from last year, with the multiple heads.
If I can get a similar Prime for $100 from an indie, then why would I want to pay double the price for this?
QC and diecast are going to be non-existent...

The Big R's picture
Posted by The Big R on 22 May, 2011 - 10:00
Good luck with getting people

Good luck with getting people to not buy Optimus Prime.

VF5SS's picture
Posted by VF5SS on 22 May, 2011 - 12:22
I know you're just trolling

I know you're just trolling me, so why not quit while you're ahead?

People can make their own decisions on what to buy or not.

Really, too many people in this hobby feel the need to "buy them all" and buy all of the latest and greatest for no discernible reason. And then complain that it sucks and they wasted their money. My point reaches far beyond this one Optimus Prime.

The Big R's picture
Posted by The Big R on 23 May, 2011 - 11:32
You rant too much.

You rant too much.

VF5SS's picture
Posted by VF5SS on 23 May, 2011 - 11:49
Maybe if you added some

Maybe if you added some content to your posts rather then bleh pictures and zero intelligence, I wouldn't have to rant. Do what you do best and stay ignorant.

The Big R's picture
Posted by The Big R on 23 May, 2011 - 15:34
I'm not ignorant.

I'm not ignorant.

VF5SS's picture
Posted by VF5SS on 23 May, 2011 - 15:56
This went way overboard,but

This went way overboard,but you are right about Mattel.

kidnicky's picture
Posted by kidnicky on 23 May, 2011 - 12:47
If you're going to get up in arms about something

then it is important to get some facts straight. Firstly, Mattel does not put out MOTUC figures at $30 a pop. They're $20, and then higher for the beasts and giant-sized figures. You cannot include the cost of shipping into the cost of an item and blame it on the vendor or retailer. Secondly, sales were not low for He-Man or Skeletor, and placing them in the two-packs with the DC characters was an attempt to see how they would do at actual retail stores. Beyond that, they are not priced the same as a single MOTUC figure, as stated above. The two-packs are listed at $30, while figures sell at $20.

Trying to argue about the scale of production between Hasbro and Fansproject is ludicrous. Fansproject is serving a very small minority of the public that buys TF products. Production runs are small and appropriately sized for their market. Hasbro is doing the same thing all other toy companies do. Nothing unusual there. Beyond that, the Optimus Prime (Faith Leader) figure you talk about is NOT a Fansproject toy. It's sold by iGear. I think it's important to point this out as iGear as a company just tends to do blatant KO rips of actual TF toys, and though Fansproject is definitely impinging on Hasbro/Takara's intellectual property, they are at least coming up with completely new toys.

Do I agree that this MP Prime is highly overpriced? Absolutely. And it's likely that the QC will be every bit as poor as that of the Rodimus toy. And yes, voting with your wallet is the only way we have of getting messages to these companies. Still, no need to misrepresent things in order to make a point.

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Posted by fujikuro on 27 May, 2011 - 09:21

why I made my vote/

AJProDie-Cast's picture
Posted by AJProDie-Cast on 19 May, 2011 - 20:57

I got other bigger fish to catch right now & it's the black market kind of fish.

Diakron's picture
Posted by Diakron on 19 May, 2011 - 21:22
Masterpiece or Master Grade Prime?

Here's hoping it'll reach domestic shores by the next anniversary date. My Import Transformer reserve is going towards that Master Grade-ish Prime from Takara's DOTM line-up.

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Posted by Rob on 20 May, 2011 - 07:19
Better Masterpiece?

Although it's robot mode looks more chunky that the previous masterpiece Optimus Prime, it's truck mode it's a lot better, with the vehicle panels aligned properly. The thing that I really dislike it's the overkill price they are placing for this.

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Posted by mikespiegel on 24 May, 2011 - 07:54
Not until they come out with an in scale MP Megatron

I am really confused that Takara would go this route.

The first MP Prime got toy of the year on many sites when it came out. Why would Takara not invest those resources in something the fans really want like the ugrade armour for Ultra Magnus which in turn could be recolored for all the re-releases of their exhisting MP Prime or even MP Galvatron. :(
I would not even consider this Prime unless they do a Megatron in the same scale.

Right now I have my MP Prime displayed with my MP Megatron which are in perfect scale and I have my MP Rodimus next to my purple Galvatron re-issue which, amazingly, are also in perfect scale.

BTW does anyone know why the water mark on the pictures says "HASBRO" and not "TAKARA"?

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Posted by SDFcommander on 22 May, 2011 - 11:37
Well, I'm sold, this is a

Well, I'm sold, this is a must have item for me X)

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Posted by ace19th on 24 May, 2011 - 06:44
I must agree

I have to agree with the majority of people here. This prime is the best looking one I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of primes over the years. The design just feels very true to the original 80's version. The grill in robot mode looks much better in place than the last version, I'm also especially fond of the energy ax picture displaying it's articulation. I never owned the last MP prime, but i don't believe it was able to articulate like this newer model. I would say its a must have for any Transformers fan and I for one can't wait for it's release. ROLL OUT !

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Posted by Mazinkaizer on 24 May, 2011 - 16:27