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Oh yes, I have this one.

From the very beginning, it was the only figure of the then upcoming nu wave of Mazingers I planned to get. Just for the transformation, it felt just right to have a transforming Z.

But, when it came out I was just pondering the dirty tricks Bandai has been pulling lately on customers. I think Josh is very generous to ascribe the belated announcement to a concern for disrupting the series' suspence, it seems more realistic to me that they just tried to catch two birds with one rock. First they release a superposable Maz celebrating the new series, then they announce they will be issuing the same toy with a gimmick(and don't even get me started on Big O's accessories set). And to top it off, what's the big idea behind the latest release? How do we make it different from the previous? Let's make it worse. Let's make the legs plastic. The previous had them in metal. Great idea. This way we'll make it almost impossible to pose it with the scrander on (but ehi, that's what we give them the stand for, right? Let the scrander rest there).

Maybe I'm oversarcastic here, but they simply did a string of totally unnecessary changes for the worse. The ankle articulation, for example, there was no need to do anything to that, being able to pull the legs would have helped greatly for major stability with the scrander on.
I would like to try the scrander on a gx-45 to see where we can go.

Of course, there are a few glitches that are exclusive to this release (or to my specimen, any way)like the chest that just does not stay closed, or the breast fire that comes off at the slightest tremble. And of all the things they did not change, they left the same pilder, with a fin way too long to fit in the chest without bending dangerously.

All in all it is not a terrible toy, but a blatantly missed chance to deliver a cool one. I would have expected this from any other company, but not Bandai.

In the end, I got it as a gift for xmas, and I'm glad I did not spend my own bucks on it.

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Posted by zmaz on 3 February, 2010 - 11:45
Agreed this toy could have

Agreed this toy could have been so much more if they'd just left the legs alone. I decided to get the GX-45 as well it's a much better figure.

Also you're not alone in worrying about breaking the pilder during the transformation, I usually just leave it out.

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Posted by Tesla on 3 February, 2010 - 12:13
I think a number of

I think a number of articulation points and diecast areas were removed not because it was structurally infeasible, but just as a means to keep the cost down. At around a hundred bucks it was already expensive for a Mazinger, and most fans had already picked up the GX-45 by the time the God Scrander version was announced. Bandai was probably worried not enough folks would bite the bullet if a "fully decked out" God Scrander Mazinger was released if it meant adding another $25 or $50 onto the price tag.

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Posted by delta7890 on 3 February, 2010 - 17:48
Yeah- Plasic!

When I had placed my pre-order, I never would have guessed Bandai would sub out the feet and legs with plastic instead of metal. It stung me hard when I opened him up. Other than that (which is pretty huge!), I do like the toy and its design. And yes I liked all the new Shin anime. Except how easily Garada and Doublous go down! No Way.

Grandzinga....

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Posted by Grandzinga on 3 February, 2010 - 12:05
I haven't seen this in

I haven't seen this in person, but the alt super rocket punch mode does look awesome admittedly. :P

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Posted by Dre2Dee2 on 3 February, 2010 - 15:47
The Big Bang Punch is

The Big Bang Punch is awesome in the show,but how many people are going to actually display the toy in hand mode?

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Posted by kidnicky on 3 February, 2010 - 21:37
sigh-

ARRRRGGGGHHHH!
Once again one of the HUGHEST issues I have with chogokin collecting, something looks great, the pictures rule, all pre-order details are great...then you get it home...open the box and feel like that kid who ordered the "real bike" from the cereal box...only to get a 1 inch plastic red lump in the mail...and of course you have no reviews to read or anything negative UNTIL you already have. I am totally annoyed about the plastic legs and limited mobility...but already bought the stupid thing and like all Bandai stuff lately, they flooded the damn market so you can not even recoup you money when you pre-ordered the stupid thing...Got super burned on last three things I pre-ordered....sigh
And can't just vent on Bandai...Max-factory...reissue of mazinger...the horns are like round in. little pieces of rubber with bubbles in the gold paint and Dragonar...that looked so cool and says max GOKIN...i.e...metal...is ALL plastic...thats right all plastic for frakin 200 bucks....this hobby is really starting to bug me...

Yes, it is predominately my fault...if I just waited and bought post review I would be better off...but seems like when I do that...it is the frakin chogokin that sells out everywhere and jumps a 100 dollar in price...not the thing that falls to 1/3 its original price because it sucks. The Fewture reissues were great..just new paint, same issues with leaning but still all metal. Yes the blue thunder and danguard ace were worth it...but still Bandai is like 0/4 with me lately and on my shiat list...and yes the Big O accessories for more that the main robot is about the most absurd screw job I have ever experience...I yes, I did NOT buy...150 for some chains and a rubber car...you have to be kidding...

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Posted by AJProDie-Cast on 3 February, 2010 - 23:48
Well from personal

Well from personal experience I can tell you that Bandai products tend to have good availability even years after release. However with Mazinger I think the smaller amount of diecast was known well before the figure hit the shelves. It's a pain, but you really do have to crawl through all of the hobby message boards to get all the necessary information on a product to make an informed decision. Waiting for picture reviews can help. Video reviews are even better in my opinion. There's a lot of little flaws that are easier to catch when someone's actually playing with the damn thing that aren't always apparent in static photos, whether it's loose joints or pieces falling off or a troublesome transformation.

The hobby has a lot of shining gems but also a lot of turds. Sometimes it's not easy to tell what will be hot and won't be. I've been let down by figures more than a few times, but I've also been pleasantly surprised with other purchases as well.

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Posted by delta7890 on 4 February, 2010 - 01:35
advice

do you have any blog sites you rely on?? most I find are antiquated or a discussion of female attributes ( I honestly never heard about the plastic legs until it was released and I already paid for...like I did read about the high plastic [all] content in masterpiece grimlock...hence I never got one...and unfortunately most of my "turds" have been bandai purchases lately...

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Posted by AJProDie-Cast on 4 February, 2010 - 06:34
apex3, I'm with you, man.

apex3, I'm with you, man. Getting burned on lackluster modern gokin is partly what made me reconsider vintage toys years ago. There were always some annoying little problems seemingly with every modern toy...and it was usually because of poor design choices that were really just inevitable given the complexity of these things. Vintage toys, on the other hand, are usually well-documented, much simpler (so fewer things can go wrong), and possess a really neat aesthetic.

I suggest this: if you get burned two out of three times with modern gokin, you still need to wait for reviews. Even if you end up having to pay 3 times more well after the release of the toy, you're only buying 1/3 the number of toys (since you're obviously not going to get the duds revealed in the reviews). You break even...but at least you don't have to deal with getting burned and potentially having to resell an opened modern toy. And, really, think about the numbers here: you're not really paying 3 times more after the release of the toy...it's probably only 50% more, tops. And at the same time, depending on your personal preference, a good half of new toys are duds. So if you wait, you have to be patient and you sacrifice "being the first" to get the toy, but you come out ahead in the end.

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Sanjeev

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Posted by Sanjeev on 4 February, 2010 - 11:02
good advice

will do, but patience has been a hard learned lesson, for some reason I need to have right away something when it comes out. I am still bothered by the things that never make it here at all ...like Marmit's Deslar ship...

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Posted by AJProDie-Cast on 4 February, 2010 - 20:52
Yeah, patience is a tough

Yeah, patience is a tough one. Not to keep advocating for vintage (if you're not into it, you're just not into it), but many of these toys came out before we were born! So, there's no "right away"! All you have to wait for is the right specimen to come along on the auction circuit, and obviously for your bank account to be able to handle it. Once you get into that mindset (where the search is what's paramount), patience around new toys becomes trivial because even well after they come out, they're generally FAR easier to find.

But yeah...I hear you about toys that never make it to the "usual channels" like Deslar's ship. That's annoying. That forces you to pay exorbitant prices on eBay or go Y!J...two options that aren't particularly pleasant when trying to get something modern...

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Sanjeev

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Posted by Sanjeev on 5 February, 2010 - 10:19
Uhm...

Not being in the field of toy production, I'm not that sure that making brand new molds for legs and lower torso is the best way to maintain low prices. Problem is, if they simply put out a gx-45 with collapsable head and god scrander no one would be here complaining. There is simply no reason to limit the posability of gx-49 in the legs. Maybe the torso would have been a harder item, but I think that if they tried spinning those little synapses of theirs a lil' bit faster, they would have come up with a satisfactory compromise.

We're talking the company that gave us Gunbuster, Ideon, Dancouga, God Mars... Hell, even Iron Gear is more posable than this...

Speaking of Bandai turds... Yesterday I saw a preorder for the Nanbara base for gx-50.
Ouch! It's 195 euros+s&h... A plastic box with 5 doors...
Someway, this does not seem the same company as before, any of you has any idea on the matter?

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Posted by zmaz on 4 February, 2010 - 08:22
Great point

Yeah- new molds=lower list price? huh? Does not compute.
Read the article here about the slumping sales in the U.S. market for Bandai. When they pull crap like this, it is more than the current economic conditions that negatively affect their sales! I am very wary of Bandai after the GX-49 experience.
And yes, the Nanbara Base looks really cool- but I would never pay even close to that for it. Even with the coupon (Japan only?) they offer for the Nanbara Base, Bandai is out of their collective minds with this pricing!

Grandzinga....

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Posted by Grandzinga on 4 February, 2010 - 11:03
I still just want the

I still just want the Mazinger Z that turns into a car. Been looking for that particular Mexican bootleg for years, if for no other reason than to just show it to people.

"You can't sell it until you get it from him, but you gotta sell it to pay him to get it to sell it".
---Jerilock, talking about me trying to raise the money I need to pay for the toys I already bought....

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Posted by NekroDave on 4 February, 2010 - 12:07
Passion for toys.......No

Passion for toys.......No other......

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Posted by badman1014 on 4 February, 2010 - 15:03
Still Gave it a Good rating

I just don't know why ..Maybe it's because I grew up with this anime and so with voltes v and the other go daikins that i need to get it. I actually got both the GX-45 and 49 and i wasn't dissapointed. One thing though, you cant attach the god scrander to gx 45...for one thing the pegs on the legs are not present. but then again, both has its own unique style, i also was taken aback why they remoed the leg articulation..it wouldnt afect the figure and also would not do any harm if they just remained die cast...i like the old anime better..but im not compalining about the new one either...hope they retool the other animes like voltes v or grendizer as well......

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Posted by badman1014 on 4 February, 2010 - 15:11
misleading much?

Taken from HLJs discription of GX-49

"The previously-released Soul of Chogokin GX-45 Mazinger Z now comes packed with a brand new weapon of mass destruction--the ultimate God Scrander!"

-_-' Always wait for the reviews.

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Posted by Rodimus1138 on 8 February, 2010 - 01:43
I said it before...

I said this before in the GX-45 review... I hate this Bandai Rip-OFF !!!

GOLDRAKE Avantiiiiiiiiii !!!

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Posted by maltagokhin on 11 February, 2010 - 16:45
Mazinger Z car

Ironically, not long after this review went up, that Mexican knockoff I mentioned went on Ebay for the first time since I saw it 7 years ago. Sadly, I forgot to bid on it so I'll not be able to bring you guys a review. But here's the link for the morbidly curious...

Mazinger car transformer

"You can't sell it until you get it from him, but you gotta sell it to pay him to get it to sell it".
---Jerilock, talking about me trying to raise the money I need to pay for the toys I already bought....

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Posted by NekroDave on 12 February, 2010 - 19:17
 
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