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		<title>Comments on: Are toys getting too expensive for you?</title>
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		<title>Two things...</title>
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		<description>Yeah, they are getting expensive, but if I like it and have the money... you only live once!

Second, I&#039;m sorry but I have all sort of robots and toys ALL over, but I am still getting all sorts of lovin&#039;... if you know what I mean.  I guess seeing all those toys sparks that &quot;motherly&quot; instinct in the ladies.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, they are getting expensive, but if I like it and have the money... you only live once!</p>
<p>Second, I'm sorry but I have all sort of robots and toys ALL over, but I am still getting all sorts of lovin'... if you know what I mean.  I guess seeing all those toys sparks that "motherly" instinct in the ladies.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 00:10:18 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Mazinger Z</dc:creator>
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		<title>I think my attitude to toys</title>
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		<description>I think my attitude to toys is a little different from most of yours. I play with my toys. Since there are a limited number of hours in a day, playing with toys is not realistic if you have more than 4 or 5. I buy one or two toys a year (only after extensive research, usually based on reviews provided by this site) and I sell or give away 1 or 2 a year. Since my toy input is relatively controlled, if I think it&#039;s worth it, I&#039;m willing to invest in an expensive toy. But I think it usually isn&#039;t worth it, and have so far only one toy costing more than 100$ (Yamato 1/48 Valkyrie).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my attitude to toys is a little different from most of yours. I play with my toys. Since there are a limited number of hours in a day, playing with toys is not realistic if you have more than 4 or 5. I buy one or two toys a year (only after extensive research, usually based on reviews provided by this site) and I sell or give away 1 or 2 a year. Since my toy input is relatively controlled, if I think it's worth it, I'm willing to invest in an expensive toy. But I think it usually isn't worth it, and have so far only one toy costing more than 100$ (Yamato 1/48 Valkyrie).</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:03:09 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wicker808</dc:creator>
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		<title>I voted that they are</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I voted that they are getting out of my price range. I mean, I&#039;ll continue collecting of course, but I&#039;m just getting more and more selective about what I get. It&#039;s got to be a character with a nice design, with a sculpt I like, by a company I trust and for a price I can justify. And even then I no longer just automatically pre-order everything like I used to. More and more I&#039;m waiting for reviews and shopping around for the best price.&lt;/p&gt;


&quot;This must be settled the way nature intended....with a vicious, bloody fight!&quot; 
Onyx Blackman
Principal, Flatpoint High</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted that they are getting out of my price range. I mean, I'll continue collecting of course, but I'm just getting more and more selective about what I get. It's got to be a character with a nice design, with a sculpt I like, by a company I trust and for a price I can justify. And even then I no longer just automatically pre-order everything like I used to. More and more I'm waiting for reviews and shopping around for the best price.</p>
<p>"This must be settled the way nature intended....with a vicious, bloody fight!"<br />
Onyx Blackman<br />
Principal, Flatpoint High</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:02:01 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>NekroDave</dc:creator>
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		<title>High High oh so High</title>
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		<description>These toys are getting to cost much... My most prized robots are the &quot;Soul Of Chogokin&quot; which are fantastic collectables. But the prices I&#039;ve seen lately compared to a few years back are outrageous. Just look at the prices for these robots on BigBadToyStore.com and a few other anime related sites. 

I don&#039;t want to pay almost $300.00 for &quot;God Mars&quot;. There are so many cool old school robots there putting out now, but when does it stop. In the end it&#039;s just a toy that sits on display or stays in a box reminding you of simpler days and ultimate robot coolness... In the end I&#039;ll spend about $120 for a robot, more is just a rip off to milk you for more bills. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These toys are getting to cost much... My most prized robots are the "Soul Of Chogokin" which are fantastic collectables. But the prices I've seen lately compared to a few years back are outrageous. Just look at the prices for these robots on BigBadToyStore.com and a few other anime related sites. </p>
<p>I don't want to pay almost $300.00 for "God Mars". There are so many cool old school robots there putting out now, but when does it stop. In the end it's just a toy that sits on display or stays in a box reminding you of simpler days and ultimate robot coolness... In the end I'll spend about $120 for a robot, more is just a rip off to milk you for more bills. </p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:37:08 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tetsuo Shima</dc:creator>
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		<title>High end = out of price</title>
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		<description>I don&#039;t usually spend too much money on one toy for my collection. The most expansive i got are my Wolkaiser (80$) and Saintkaiser (75$). Even if I&#039;m seriously interested in buying a Magiking complete collection, I feel bad to spend 150+ on ONE toy, even if it&#039;s a great one.

&quot;Awww man, that’s one ugly zord...&quot; Tommy about BA Drivemax Megazord.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't usually spend too much money on one toy for my collection. The most expansive i got are my Wolkaiser (80$) and Saintkaiser (75$). Even if I'm seriously interested in buying a Magiking complete collection, I feel bad to spend 150+ on ONE toy, even if it's a great one.</p>
<p>"Awww man, that’s one ugly zord..." Tommy about BA Drivemax Megazord.</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:37:54 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Andre</dc:creator>
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		<title>Great poll, inspiring many</title>
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		<description>Great poll, inspiring many different opinions. I&#039;m a recent SOC convert, and the way I see it, a $150-$250 SOC is a great value for a toy that is well-built, a nice display piece, and highly interactive. I&#039;m also a Transformers fan, and I&#039;d prefer an SOC over a Masterpiece Transformer. The SOC toys even end up being nice conversation pieces too, because most people don&#039;t instantly recognize the robots, and they look really damn good. So I do see positive aspects for the high-end toys.

Even the prohibitively high prices can be a good thing, because I have to be extremely discriminative with what I buy, and not flood my house with toys. So I&#039;ll be willing to buy a toy in the $150+ range, as long as the toy represents that value in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great poll, inspiring many different opinions. I'm a recent SOC convert, and the way I see it, a $150-$250 SOC is a great value for a toy that is well-built, a nice display piece, and highly interactive. I'm also a Transformers fan, and I'd prefer an SOC over a Masterpiece Transformer. The SOC toys even end up being nice conversation pieces too, because most people don't instantly recognize the robots, and they look really damn good. So I do see positive aspects for the high-end toys.</p>
<p>Even the prohibitively high prices can be a good thing, because I have to be extremely discriminative with what I buy, and not flood my house with toys. So I'll be willing to buy a toy in the $150+ range, as long as the toy represents that value in my opinion.</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:57:12 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Snake-Eater</dc:creator>
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		<title>More devil&#039;s advocacy...</title>
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		<description>I basically agree with everything you&#039;ve said here, R, but I&#039;ll add some of my thoughts...&lt;br&gt;
First, I &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; your idea of having a &quot;yes, but only the ones that chip and break out of the box!&quot; option on the poll! I was thinking the same damn thing!&lt;br&gt;
Anyway, I guess all I have to add is that, while I agree with the content of what you&#039;re saying, I think there&#039;s more to think about here regarding this whole market. Like, just to start off, I can &lt;i&gt;totally&lt;/i&gt; appreciate your being upset about the state of affairs in this hobby. There are a lot more players out there now making high-end collectibles than, say, even just five years ago. Most of these companies are tiny (and certainly untested) compared to a Bandai or Taka-Tomy. The net result is that we have an increasing flood of high-end toys with a lower average quality. That sucks.&lt;br&gt;
Also, as you&#039;ve said, the limited nature of many of these collectibles, &lt;i&gt;plus&lt;/i&gt; the increasing popularity of them (i.e., the increasing money dumped on them) is leading to the scalper mentality in the grey-/aftermarket.&lt;br&gt;
The question is what to do/think about it. You&#039;ve suggested that people vote with their dollars and &lt;i&gt;stop&lt;/i&gt; buying high-end collectibles that aren&#039;t up to par. Now, do you really think that&#039;s going to happen? I&#039;m guessing that we are but a vocal minority in the whole market. Sure, we&#039;re the hardcore nerds who &lt;i&gt;collect&lt;/i&gt; these things as a hobby, but I don&#039;t think we figure &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; much into the sales of these toys. I know for a fact that there are a LOT of casual folks out there who buy a random high-end robot every now and then just because it comes from a show they loved growing up or because it would look hot on their shelf next to the other artsy curiosities or whatever. Then, there is the reclusive super-collector contingent who&#039;ll quietly buy anything and everything just because they can and because it gives them something to feel good about (not that they see actual value in the toys).&lt;br&gt;
But, okay, say we &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; provide the bulk the sales of these toys. Still, are we really going to cut down? Chances are good that the vast majority of us are going to pick up at least &lt;b&gt;one&lt;/b&gt; Mospeada ride armor among the several new ones we&#039;re getting flooded with. And guess what: they may &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; suck! I think that&#039;s just how it is. It&#039;s up to the specific circumstances of the individual whether or not they&#039;re going to continue buying stuff like this. Like, as long as there&#039;s room for storage/display and as long as you&#039;re not collecting your way into the poor house, I think most of us will be sticking with buying this crap (...unless you&#039;re a curmudgeon like me...and eschew modern adult toys altogether...).&lt;br&gt;
Then there are the manufacturers and the grey market sellers. Again, I can &lt;i&gt;totally&lt;/i&gt; understand why you&#039;re mad at these people. The designer vinyl aftermarket, for example, is a joke. A very, very sad one. But again, what can ya do? This is capitalism, baby! ...I&#039;m not saying I like it any more than you do, but this is how free market economy rolls. Business men saw the profits Bandai made with the GX-01 in the 90&#039;s and wanted to emulate that. The reality is that, right now, this generation of thirty-somethings is starting to age out of having so much disposeable income (like Rob is saying below), and the era of our nostalgia is passing. These companies need to cash in quick...&lt;br&gt;
For that reason, I find it tough to blame the companies. And as for the grey market sellers, I can&#039;t really blame them either. If some guy wants to pay 3x retail for something, why wouldn&#039;t I charge that? And it&#039;s not just &lt;i&gt;one or two&lt;/i&gt; saps...there are *tons* of people out there buying into the whole thing. Sure, it&#039;d be nice if folks stopped buying these toys, publicly protested the companies, and even contacted them as you have...but I doubt that&#039;s gonna happen.&lt;br&gt;
I just see the market continuing to inflate until the inevitable burst...&lt;br&gt;
In my mind, there is no good, there is no bad; there just is.&lt;br&gt;
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Sanjeev</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I basically agree with everything you've said here, R, but I'll add some of my thoughts...<br><br />
First, I <i>love</i> your idea of having a "yes, but only the ones that chip and break out of the box!" option on the poll! I was thinking the same damn thing!<br><br />
Anyway, I guess all I have to add is that, while I agree with the content of what you're saying, I think there's more to think about here regarding this whole market. Like, just to start off, I can <i>totally</i> appreciate your being upset about the state of affairs in this hobby. There are a lot more players out there now making high-end collectibles than, say, even just five years ago. Most of these companies are tiny (and certainly untested) compared to a Bandai or Taka-Tomy. The net result is that we have an increasing flood of high-end toys with a lower average quality. That sucks.<br><br />
Also, as you've said, the limited nature of many of these collectibles, <i>plus</i> the increasing popularity of them (i.e., the increasing money dumped on them) is leading to the scalper mentality in the grey-/aftermarket.<br><br />
The question is what to do/think about it. You've suggested that people vote with their dollars and <i>stop</i> buying high-end collectibles that aren't up to par. Now, do you really think that's going to happen? I'm guessing that we are but a vocal minority in the whole market. Sure, we're the hardcore nerds who <i>collect</i> these things as a hobby, but I don't think we figure <i>that</i> much into the sales of these toys. I know for a fact that there are a LOT of casual folks out there who buy a random high-end robot every now and then just because it comes from a show they loved growing up or because it would look hot on their shelf next to the other artsy curiosities or whatever. Then, there is the reclusive super-collector contingent who'll quietly buy anything and everything just because they can and because it gives them something to feel good about (not that they see actual value in the toys).<br><br />
But, okay, say we <i>do</i> provide the bulk the sales of these toys. Still, are we really going to cut down? Chances are good that the vast majority of us are going to pick up at least <b>one</b> Mospeada ride armor among the several new ones we're getting flooded with. And guess what: they may <i>all</i> suck! I think that's just how it is. It's up to the specific circumstances of the individual whether or not they're going to continue buying stuff like this. Like, as long as there's room for storage/display and as long as you're not collecting your way into the poor house, I think most of us will be sticking with buying this crap (...unless you're a curmudgeon like me...and eschew modern adult toys altogether...).<br><br />
Then there are the manufacturers and the grey market sellers. Again, I can <i>totally</i> understand why you're mad at these people. The designer vinyl aftermarket, for example, is a joke. A very, very sad one. But again, what can ya do? This is capitalism, baby! ...I'm not saying I like it any more than you do, but this is how free market economy rolls. Business men saw the profits Bandai made with the GX-01 in the 90's and wanted to emulate that. The reality is that, right now, this generation of thirty-somethings is starting to age out of having so much disposeable income (like Rob is saying below), and the era of our nostalgia is passing. These companies need to cash in quick...<br><br />
For that reason, I find it tough to blame the companies. And as for the grey market sellers, I can't really blame them either. If some guy wants to pay 3x retail for something, why wouldn't I charge that? And it's not just <i>one or two</i> saps...there are *tons* of people out there buying into the whole thing. Sure, it'd be nice if folks stopped buying these toys, publicly protested the companies, and even contacted them as you have...but I doubt that's gonna happen.<br><br />
I just see the market continuing to inflate until the inevitable burst...<br><br />
In my mind, there is no good, there is no bad; there just is.<br><br />
--<br />
Sanjeev</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:31:49 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
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		<title>Oh yeah...VIVA PITU !  Its</title>
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		<description>Oh yeah...VIVA PITU !  Its your fault yo! I blame you lol =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah...VIVA PITU !  Its your fault yo! I blame you lol =)</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:59:24 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>truewanderer</dc:creator>
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		<title>I stopped collecting this</title>
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		<description>I stopped collecting this stuff after i bought both the fewture great mazinger and mazinger z toys for obscene ammounts of cash.  It seemed common sense finally got a grip and I was over my habbit...i mean hobby.  Bt NO!  Whlst I moved away from gokin and that sorta crap I&#039;ve now become a slave to the 1/6 figure market.  Since December and about 4000.00 dollars later, I&#039;ve now gone through the hot toy, takara, sideshow and medicom back catalogue and feel buyers remorse like never before.  Sure this stuff is know getting out of my price range.  But the problem is folks that I&#039;m sure i&#039;m not the only one to admit this; we are slaves to our hobby, our passion if you will.  You have to admit that its a hell of a ride and the thrill of opening that much sort after piece to add to your collection is what makes this thing fun?!  I do feel exploited sometimes with these stupid high prices but no one holds a gun to our heads forcing us to buy this crap right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped collecting this stuff after i bought both the fewture great mazinger and mazinger z toys for obscene ammounts of cash.  It seemed common sense finally got a grip and I was over my habbit...i mean hobby.  Bt NO!  Whlst I moved away from gokin and that sorta crap I've now become a slave to the 1/6 figure market.  Since December and about 4000.00 dollars later, I've now gone through the hot toy, takara, sideshow and medicom back catalogue and feel buyers remorse like never before.  Sure this stuff is know getting out of my price range.  But the problem is folks that I'm sure i'm not the only one to admit this; we are slaves to our hobby, our passion if you will.  You have to admit that its a hell of a ride and the thrill of opening that much sort after piece to add to your collection is what makes this thing fun?!  I do feel exploited sometimes with these stupid high prices but no one holds a gun to our heads forcing us to buy this crap right?</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:57:12 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>truewanderer</dc:creator>
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		<title>Grave Gokin</title>
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		<description>The problem is that high price does not mean quality. A case in point is Brave Gokin&#039;s Tread and Legioss. First off I am glad that somebody finally produced the Tread but the quality of the toy is not worth $300.00 price tag. 

Yesterday I had the chance to view the toy at Frank in Sons and it just looked cheap, the box art design and the toy itself. The review on Collection DX isn&#039;t too positive either. The art design on the box looks like something that one would see on a cheap toy at the swap meet. At $300.00 a unit they could at least put some effort into the box, have some Tokyo art student design some great looking box that just screams &quot; I need to own this!&quot; $300.00 is a lot of money and i expect to get a well fitting nice looking toy as the end product. At $300 I expect a family heirloom!

The Soul of Chogokin Toys are great example of an expensive toy that you certainly pay for but it usually meets and surpasses all expectations and they are usually a classy toy that displays well.  

The point is that if a manufacture is going to charge the punters a lot of money for their product, the product should worth the value one paid for it.

Cheers
Leonardo






We&#039;ll fight them on the Beaches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that high price does not mean quality. A case in point is Brave Gokin's Tread and Legioss. First off I am glad that somebody finally produced the Tread but the quality of the toy is not worth $300.00 price tag. </p>
<p>Yesterday I had the chance to view the toy at Frank in Sons and it just looked cheap, the box art design and the toy itself. The review on Collection DX isn't too positive either. The art design on the box looks like something that one would see on a cheap toy at the swap meet. At $300.00 a unit they could at least put some effort into the box, have some Tokyo art student design some great looking box that just screams " I need to own this!" $300.00 is a lot of money and i expect to get a well fitting nice looking toy as the end product. At $300 I expect a family heirloom!</p>
<p>The Soul of Chogokin Toys are great example of an expensive toy that you certainly pay for but it usually meets and surpasses all expectations and they are usually a classy toy that displays well.  </p>
<p>The point is that if a manufacture is going to charge the punters a lot of money for their product, the product should worth the value one paid for it.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Leonardo</p>
<p>We'll fight them on the Beaches!</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:36:19 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Modcineaste</dc:creator>
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		<title>Big lack of long term vision..</title>
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		<description>My take on new figure pricing is this:

1) Any price of a toy is fine if I genuinely feel like I received that much value out of it, both on the levels of &quot;fun&quot; and &quot;monetary&quot; perception.  But the current elitist price trends almost never deliver a product that feels truly justified. Personally I don&#039;t give a damn whether a figure is ltd. edition or any of that crap.  Whatever the cost of a brand new figure is AT RETAIL, I expect that much value out of it when comparing/contrasting to the other figures in my collection and the comparative prices I have paid for them.  
This is exactly why I will not be buying the CM Dancouga Nova for the ridiculous price of $600. 

2) There is never an excuse for the extremes of poor QC that are currently taking place.  I can handle an overspray, but if a company can&#039;t put out a figure that holds itself together, then that company needs to hop back on their damn pony and get the hell out of dodge.
 
3) Part of the appeal of toy and figure collecting has always been the low-brow kitsch of it all.  It&#039;s always been a -relatively- cheap and easy hobby, and this accessability keeps us around and brings new people in, but with this current trend of elitist &quot;perceived value&quot; pricing, a large portion of appeal goes right out the door.

Lastly, I agree with Sanjeev about the amount of fun that can be found in real toys.  More often than not my $10 purchases at Target are just as fun as the $100+ purchases.  Cases in point: I love my $20 Mugenbine Pharoah, and the Ben 10 Wildvine is awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on new figure pricing is this:</p>
<p>1) Any price of a toy is fine if I genuinely feel like I received that much value out of it, both on the levels of "fun" and "monetary" perception.  But the current elitist price trends almost never deliver a product that feels truly justified. Personally I don't give a damn whether a figure is ltd. edition or any of that crap.  Whatever the cost of a brand new figure is AT RETAIL, I expect that much value out of it when comparing/contrasting to the other figures in my collection and the comparative prices I have paid for them.<br />
This is exactly why I will not be buying the CM Dancouga Nova for the ridiculous price of $600. </p>
<p>2) There is never an excuse for the extremes of poor QC that are currently taking place.  I can handle an overspray, but if a company can't put out a figure that holds itself together, then that company needs to hop back on their damn pony and get the hell out of dodge.</p>
<p>3) Part of the appeal of toy and figure collecting has always been the low-brow kitsch of it all.  It's always been a -relatively- cheap and easy hobby, and this accessability keeps us around and brings new people in, but with this current trend of elitist "perceived value" pricing, a large portion of appeal goes right out the door.</p>
<p>Lastly, I agree with Sanjeev about the amount of fun that can be found in real toys.  More often than not my $10 purchases at Target are just as fun as the $100+ purchases.  Cases in point: I love my $20 Mugenbine Pharoah, and the Ben 10 Wildvine is awesome.</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:40:37 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>xiombarg</dc:creator>
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		<title>Again its a sign of the times.</title>
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		<description>It seems to be my thoughts on the whole subject matter is that toys are just one of the fewest things on the agenda to be taken seriously when it comes to money matters. When the costs of a gallon of milk outweigh a gallon of gas, and a full tank of gas exceeds the costs of a month&#039;s grocery bills. 

I live in the heart of the Agriculture circle, and the prices of necessitites: fuel, feed, and selling prices (livestock) are rediculously out of whack: last week alone we spent $320.01 for Dyed-Diesel at $3.99 a gallon, which will be used sparingly over the next four months in which time the cost will most likely reach the expected $5.99 a gallon, for a fuel that is almost exclusive to farm equipment. Our farm also sees a $200-250 cost for feed each month, which again is likely to increase due to the current state of the agricultural business. Two months ago the feed was less than $7.28 a bag, now its climbed to nearly $9.28. There is almost No corn for Feed because many of the large scale farms around here (from Tifton to Alapaha)that sought to profit from the &#039;demand&#039; for Ethanol production, and this last year&#039;s crops were terrible due to the drought conditions. So no corn for fuel turned into no corn for feed either. As a response to that, the prices of Livestock at Market are miserable and the retuns of a two man operation (Such my family farm) are bearly at the break-even point, let alone on the much larger operations where groups are just &#039;dropping&#039; their herds because they cannot afford to feed them. So the market becomes cheaper when the market is flooded. So we can&#039;t sell our herd to make any money because nobody&#039;s buying. Add in the recent string of tainted meat reports, nobody wants to buy sick looking, malnurished cows. Thats just me being paranoid but so be it.

So like I said, Its not so much for me the quality or the price of the toy that I&#039;d collect that sets me off, but the priorities that must be paid for. If something is available somewhere at some other time, then perhaps I can get it then, but first things first: I&#039;ve got to buy feed for my cows, dog food and maybe something to eat myself. I&#039;ve been staring at some things for years now, but because I have other things that need to be paid for, I let them go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to be my thoughts on the whole subject matter is that toys are just one of the fewest things on the agenda to be taken seriously when it comes to money matters. When the costs of a gallon of milk outweigh a gallon of gas, and a full tank of gas exceeds the costs of a month's grocery bills. </p>
<p>I live in the heart of the Agriculture circle, and the prices of necessitites: fuel, feed, and selling prices (livestock) are rediculously out of whack: last week alone we spent $320.01 for Dyed-Diesel at $3.99 a gallon, which will be used sparingly over the next four months in which time the cost will most likely reach the expected $5.99 a gallon, for a fuel that is almost exclusive to farm equipment. Our farm also sees a $200-250 cost for feed each month, which again is likely to increase due to the current state of the agricultural business. Two months ago the feed was less than $7.28 a bag, now its climbed to nearly $9.28. There is almost No corn for Feed because many of the large scale farms around here (from Tifton to Alapaha)that sought to profit from the 'demand' for Ethanol production, and this last year's crops were terrible due to the drought conditions. So no corn for fuel turned into no corn for feed either. As a response to that, the prices of Livestock at Market are miserable and the retuns of a two man operation (Such my family farm) are bearly at the break-even point, let alone on the much larger operations where groups are just 'dropping' their herds because they cannot afford to feed them. So the market becomes cheaper when the market is flooded. So we can't sell our herd to make any money because nobody's buying. Add in the recent string of tainted meat reports, nobody wants to buy sick looking, malnurished cows. Thats just me being paranoid but so be it.</p>
<p>So like I said, Its not so much for me the quality or the price of the toy that I'd collect that sets me off, but the priorities that must be paid for. If something is available somewhere at some other time, then perhaps I can get it then, but first things first: I've got to buy feed for my cows, dog food and maybe something to eat myself. I've been staring at some things for years now, but because I have other things that need to be paid for, I let them go.</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:14:55 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Braun</dc:creator>
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		<title>I apologize, that closing</title>
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		<description>I apologize, that closing bit went too far.

I just get angry when I see people second-guessing themselves due to pressure from the masses&#039; concept of &quot;normal&quot; lifestyles.  Do what you like, don&#039;t let others&#039; ideals influence yours simply because they don&#039;t like what you do.  You&#039;re not hurting anybody, your obsession is no different from some dude into sports memorabilia or Nascar stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize, that closing bit went too far.</p>
<p>I just get angry when I see people second-guessing themselves due to pressure from the masses' concept of "normal" lifestyles.  Do what you like, don't let others' ideals influence yours simply because they don't like what you do.  You're not hurting anybody, your obsession is no different from some dude into sports memorabilia or Nascar stuff.</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:25:57 -0400</pubDate>
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		<title>Keep it frosty, people...</title>
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		<description>As always, please remain civil or the iron fist of the Admin will come crashing down! :P&lt;br&gt;
As for your (Typhus&#039;) comments, I do tend to agree with Duke&#039;s sentiments...if not the emotion. Definitely do &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; GTFO. Conflicting POVs is how we grow. Anyway, I certainly don&#039;t see any offense in your 7-point argument as to why you should quit. The insecurity thing&#039;s a bit off...but you know that already. Still, if anything, I would perhaps &lt;i&gt;encourage&lt;/i&gt; you to quit because it really sounds like you&#039;re not getting a lot out of the hobby.&lt;br&gt;
Honestly, I don&#039;t buy many high-end toys anymore. I&#039;m a Groizer fan, hence the Yamato GN-U...and I&#039;ll probably pick up Beagle&#039;s Mospeada and Toynami&#039;s TLEAD &lt;b&gt;if&lt;/b&gt; they miraculously turn out rock-solid...but other than that, I&#039;m sorta done with modern &quot;collectibles&quot;. Don&#039;t get me wrong--I still buy new toys (just like your Minimates). For example, I just picked up &lt;a href=&quot;http://jadaclub.com/index.php?cPath=339_348&amp;osCsid=f842eb0bcefbb110b576d55bf0138bd8&quot;&gt;Jada&#039;s 1/55 diecast Speed Racer line&lt;/a&gt;, and it kicks much ass...but like The Big R said, the joy-to-price ratio just isn&#039;t there in modern, adult-oriented collectibles. Hell, I haven&#039;t bought an SoC in years, and they actually have &lt;i&gt;decent&lt;/i&gt; quality.&lt;br&gt;
If anything, Typhus (by the way, I &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; WH40k--is your name a reference to &lt;a href=&quot;http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&amp;code=303078&amp;orignav=300901&amp;ParentID=250081&amp;GameNav=10&quot;&gt;the Herald of Nurgle&lt;/a&gt;???), I&#039;d probably encourage you to dump modern and go vintage. The more and more time passes, the more and more my collection evolves...as do my tastes. The one genre that has almost &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; let me down is vintage gokin. I know I come off like a snob a lot, but I genuinely think these toys are superior. They were &lt;i&gt;toys&lt;/i&gt; mass-marketed to actual children back in the day. But at the same time, they possessed quality of design (not to mention &lt;i&gt;diecast&lt;/i&gt;) that&#039;s emulated with mixed results today. Sure, today&#039;s gokin are more complex due to engineering design/manufacturing advances, but they usually lack the &quot;Soul&quot; they purport to convey.&lt;br&gt;
I&#039;ll cut my ramble short, but I&#039;ll leave you with this last sentiment: when I look up at my shelves, I see a bunch of Popy ST&#039;s and the like on one shelf, and SoCs/Aoshima diecasts on another. I &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; have the urge to reach up and mess around with the vintage stuff (shoot a missile, change out a weapon or pose, or just feel the cold, solid mass of a non-fidgety toy). I &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; get that urge from my modern shelf.&lt;br&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, please remain civil or the iron fist of the Admin will come crashing down! :P<br><br />
As for your (Typhus') comments, I do tend to agree with Duke's sentiments...if not the emotion. Definitely do <b>not</b> GTFO. Conflicting POVs is how we grow. Anyway, I certainly don't see any offense in your 7-point argument as to why you should quit. The insecurity thing's a bit off...but you know that already. Still, if anything, I would perhaps <i>encourage</i> you to quit because it really sounds like you're not getting a lot out of the hobby.<br><br />
Honestly, I don't buy many high-end toys anymore. I'm a Groizer fan, hence the Yamato GN-U...and I'll probably pick up Beagle's Mospeada and Toynami's TLEAD <b>if</b> they miraculously turn out rock-solid...but other than that, I'm sorta done with modern "collectibles". Don't get me wrong--I still buy new toys (just like your Minimates). For example, I just picked up <a href="http://jadaclub.com/index.php?cPath=339_348&amp;osCsid=f842eb0bcefbb110b576d55bf0138bd8">Jada's 1/55 diecast Speed Racer line</a>, and it kicks much ass...but like The Big R said, the joy-to-price ratio just isn't there in modern, adult-oriented collectibles. Hell, I haven't bought an SoC in years, and they actually have <i>decent</i> quality.<br><br />
If anything, Typhus (by the way, I <i>love</i> WH40k--is your name a reference to <a href="http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&amp;code=303078&amp;orignav=300901&amp;ParentID=250081&amp;GameNav=10">the Herald of Nurgle</a>???), I'd probably encourage you to dump modern and go vintage. The more and more time passes, the more and more my collection evolves...as do my tastes. The one genre that has almost <i>never</i> let me down is vintage gokin. I know I come off like a snob a lot, but I genuinely think these toys are superior. They were <i>toys</i> mass-marketed to actual children back in the day. But at the same time, they possessed quality of design (not to mention <i>diecast</i>) that's emulated with mixed results today. Sure, today's gokin are more complex due to engineering design/manufacturing advances, but they usually lack the "Soul" they purport to convey.<br><br />
I'll cut my ramble short, but I'll leave you with this last sentiment: when I look up at my shelves, I see a bunch of Popy ST's and the like on one shelf, and SoCs/Aoshima diecasts on another. I <i>always</i> have the urge to reach up and mess around with the vintage stuff (shoot a missile, change out a weapon or pose, or just feel the cold, solid mass of a non-fidgety toy). I <i>never</i> get that urge from my modern shelf.<br><br />
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Sanjeev</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:08:30 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
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		<title>Hahahaha, no threaded</title>
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		<description>Hahahaha, no threaded dialogue is complete with unfettered, blistering nerd rage. Nonetheless, Typhus, your original comment undoubtedly opens up a general insecurity, which I&#039;m glad about; It&#039;s a sincere and realistic issue which I could only imagine haunts most of us and it&#039;s silly and unhealthy to avoid it. 

But the answer to the battle betwixt nerd-desire and social-acceptance is a simple one really: Hang out with hipsters. &#039;Cause toys and comics have just as much cred with them as rolled pant legs, fixed-gear bikes and coke habits.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahaha, no threaded dialogue is complete with unfettered, blistering nerd rage. Nonetheless, Typhus, your original comment undoubtedly opens up a general insecurity, which I'm glad about; It's a sincere and realistic issue which I could only imagine haunts most of us and it's silly and unhealthy to avoid it. </p>
<p>But the answer to the battle betwixt nerd-desire and social-acceptance is a simple one really: Hang out with hipsters. 'Cause toys and comics have just as much cred with them as rolled pant legs, fixed-gear bikes and coke habits.</p><br class="giImageBlock-clear-both" />]]></content:encoded>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:27:14 -0400</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jetjagaa</dc:creator>
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