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]]> Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:57:20 -0500 Destroy All Podcasts DX http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11057 The hair metal ver. of the http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11056 The hair metal ver. of the theme, yes. Thank you! ------------------------------ CollectionDX Staff The hair metal ver. of the theme, yes.

Thank you!
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]]> Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:39:08 -0500 EVA_Unit_4A http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11056 Music http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11050 If you are talking about the theme song to the 1986 Transformers the Movie, the hair metal version of the Transformers theme, that's performed by Lion and was written by Anne Bryant and Ford Kinder. If you are asking about the theme song to the podcast, I wrote it and my band Violence Mars performed it. -Jeremy If you are talking about the theme song to the 1986 Transformers the Movie, the hair metal version of the Transformers theme, that's performed by Lion and was written by Anne Bryant and Ford Kinder.

If you are asking about the theme song to the podcast, I wrote it and my band Violence Mars performed it.

-Jeremy


]]> Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:21:39 -0500 Destroy All Podcasts DX http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11050 I repeat: I have not seen http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11046 I repeat: I have <i>not</i> seen <i>TF:TM</i> yet. And I <i>have not yet</i> heard the above podcast. (I simply figured this was as good a place as any to ask my question since it was relevant, and would get the- um... 'proper' attention fastest. Turns out I was right, R78...) Dude- I don't follow the pop music crowd that closely, so I seriously doubt anything I hear about who wrote it, sang it, produced it, and what it's properly titled will hurt me <i>that</i> badly. ;P ... (*scratches head, confused*) Why do I have to keep saying this-? I found out about Transformers <i>after</i> G1 had ended, and G2 was well underway. (Never being a comic book fan, I didn't know wabout that either until much later.) <i>Beast Wars</i> was my first exposure and what turned me into a Trans-fan. And I completely missed <i>RiD</i> and the Unicron Trilogy because they were on cable [which we didn't have at the time]. Feel sorry for me if you are compelled to do so, but that's how it happened for me. ------------------------------ CollectionDX Staff I repeat: I have not seen TF:TM yet. And I have not yet heard the above podcast.

(I simply figured this was as good a place as any to ask my question since it was relevant, and would get the- um... 'proper' attention fastest. Turns out I was right, R78...)

Dude- I don't follow the pop music crowd that closely, so I seriously doubt anything I hear about who wrote it, sang it, produced it, and what it's properly titled will hurt me that badly. ;P

...

(*scratches head, confused*)

Why do I have to keep saying this-? I found out about Transformers after G1 had ended, and G2 was well underway. (Never being a comic book fan, I didn't know wabout that either until much later.) Beast Wars was my first exposure and what turned me into a Trans-fan. And I completely missed RiD and the Unicron Trilogy because they were on cable [which we didn't have at the time].
Feel sorry for me if you are compelled to do so, but that's how it happened for me.
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]]> Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:37:00 -0500 EVA_Unit_4A http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11046 For Real? http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11045 <b>"No- I still haven't seen TF:TM yet; I don't wanna hear about it. (I wanna watch the first two seasons of the show first... whenever that happens.) That being said... What is the name of, who wrote, produced, & performed the theme song during the opening credits? Someone gave me a copy of the song [to use in one of my CDX videos], but I don't know the basics of it [to credit the proper people]."</b> Woah EVA... for real? Seriously? If that's the case for you then you better stay away from this podcast if you don't wanna be spoiled. Also, if you want to find out the information of the theme song in advance; won't that jeopardize your experience in seeing the 1st 2 seasons of the G1 TF + The REAL Movie? I mean c'mon ... the specific answers to your specific questions might be hazardous to your enthusiasm. My advice to you is get the Shout! Factory DVD collection, then THE MOVIE on DVD. -R78 "No- I still haven't seen TF:TM yet; I don't wanna hear about it. (I wanna watch the first two seasons of the show first... whenever that happens.) That being said...

What is the name of, who wrote, produced, & performed the theme song during the opening credits? Someone gave me a copy of the song [to use in one of my CDX videos], but I don't know the basics of it [to credit the proper people]."

Woah EVA... for real? Seriously? If that's the case for you then you better stay away from this podcast if you don't wanna be spoiled.

Also, if you want to find out the information of the theme song in advance; won't that jeopardize your experience in seeing the 1st 2 seasons of the G1 TF + The REAL Movie?

I mean c'mon ... the specific answers to your specific questions might be hazardous to your enthusiasm.

My advice to you is get the Shout! Factory DVD collection, then THE MOVIE on DVD.

-R78


]]> Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:22:15 -0500 Rodimus78 http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11045 My research is seriously leading me aray these days... http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11044 <i>No</i>- I <i>still</i> haven't seen <i>TF:TM</i> yet; I don't wanna hear about it. (I wanna watch the first two seasons of the show first... whenever <i>that</i> happens.) That being said... What is the name of, who wrote, produced, & performed the theme song during the opening credits? Someone gave me a copy of the song [to use in one of my CDX videos], but I don't know the basics of it [to credit the proper people]. ------------------------------ CollectionDX Staff No- I still haven't seen TF:TM yet; I don't wanna hear about it. (I wanna watch the first two seasons of the show first... whenever that happens.) That being said...

What is the name of, who wrote, produced, & performed the theme song during the opening credits? Someone gave me a copy of the song [to use in one of my CDX videos], but I don't know the basics of it [to credit the proper people].
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]]> Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:02:00 -0500 EVA_Unit_4A http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-11044 Wait--you're both http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4984 Wait--you're both right!<br> (regarding the plot, that is)<br> Tale of puberty...Lion King...hell, even Star Wars (A New Hope)...these are all permutations of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero%27s_Journey">monomyth</a>, as explained by Joseph Campbell and others. Anthropologists, mythologists, and other cross-cultural historians have noted the existence of this type of story being told throughout history by numerous different cultures. And <b>not</b> via cultural diffusion--these instances were completely separate from one another. Fascinating stuff.<br> Now back to robots bashing each other's brains in!<br> -- Sanjeev Wait--you're both right!

(regarding the plot, that is)

Tale of puberty...Lion King...hell, even Star Wars (A New Hope)...these are all permutations of monomyth, as explained by Joseph Campbell and others. Anthropologists, mythologists, and other cross-cultural historians have noted the existence of this type of story being told throughout history by numerous different cultures. And not via cultural diffusion--these instances were completely separate from one another. Fascinating stuff.

Now back to robots bashing each other's brains in!

--
Sanjeev


]]> Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:48:17 -0500 Sanjeev http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4984 The complete score http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4983 There's a Japanese version of the soundtrack that pretty much gives you ALL of the music from the movie. It's two-disc and the cover has the black-and-white picture of Hot Rod and Unicron that you see at the top of the page. ~Neil http://www.dasiencomic.com/ There's a Japanese version of the soundtrack that pretty much gives you ALL of the music from the movie. It's two-disc and the cover has the black-and-white picture of Hot Rod and Unicron that you see at the top of the page.

~Neil

http://www.dasiencomic.com/


]]> Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:02:57 -0500 Mr Neil http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4983 The Circuit of Life http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4982 Actually, Jeremy, what I've pointed out numerous times is that Transformers The Movie has more or less the same plot as The Lion King. And you're kind of wrong on the music. It wasn't just the main theme. Dare was also written specifically for the movie by Vince DiCola. In fact, Stan Bush wasn't even supposed to be the original singer of that song. True, all of the other songs were written for other movies, but that's not THAT unusual. By the way, The Touch was originally written for Cobra, not Rocky. The connection with Rocky actually comes from the score composer, Vince DiCola, having previously worked on Rocky IV. ~Neil http://www.dasiencomic.com/ Actually, Jeremy, what I've pointed out numerous times is that Transformers The Movie has more or less the same plot as The Lion King.

And you're kind of wrong on the music. It wasn't just the main theme. Dare was also written specifically for the movie by Vince DiCola. In fact, Stan Bush wasn't even supposed to be the original singer of that song. True, all of the other songs were written for other movies, but that's not THAT unusual.

By the way, The Touch was originally written for Cobra, not Rocky. The connection with Rocky actually comes from the score composer, Vince DiCola, having previously worked on Rocky IV.

~Neil

http://www.dasiencomic.com/


]]> Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:58:11 -0500 Mr Neil http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4982 TORANSUFOMU! http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4981 In the Transformers fan commentary (which is one the anniversary disc), they read from several pages of the script to fill in some of the gaps, explain some of the glitches, and whatnot. For example, Prime was supposed to be attacked by one of the conehead planes during his dialogue with Megatron, which is why he appears to be standing back up. Yeah, the shuttle sequence was supposed to be significantly more gruesome, particularly with the deaths of Ratchet and Ironhide, being fused together. And yes, Magnus was to be drawn and quartered in the script. The reason it's in the comic book adaptation is because they were working from the first draft of the script. (This is also why the comic book version refers to Autobot City as Fortress Maximus.) There's at least some evidence that part of the draw-and-quarter scene went into production, and they talk about it on the commentary. It's particularly evident in Robert Stack's performance and the way the Sweeps were animated. The only "extra" content you get from the Japanese version of Transformers of the movie is all of the hammed-up adlibbing on the part of the actors. Scenes with no dialogue at all are now filled with chatter. For example, as Prime barrels through the city, every Decepticon he hits makes some sort of outburst. But the most annoying scene in which this occurs is Prime's death. There's a reason that there's no sound in the latter half of the scene, but this was totally lost on the Japanese. There are gasps as Prime's body goes dark, and they make sure to have Daniel bawl like a baby, even though kids his age don't really do that. Although, that isn't quite as annoying as having every single character shout "TRANSFORRRRM!" every time they change. Seriously,<b> why are they doing that? </b>Goddamn, I hate the Japanese version of the movie. Anyone who tells me that it's superior to the American version needs to be pushed down a flight of stairs. You can die in a fire. Heck, I have serious problems with the Japanese version of the Transformers franchise as a whole. The only one that was actually done somewhat well was Masterforce, although they couldn't resist having whiny kids in the show, either. ~Neil http://www.dasiencomic.com/ In the Transformers fan commentary (which is one the anniversary disc), they read from several pages of the script to fill in some of the gaps, explain some of the glitches, and whatnot. For example, Prime was supposed to be attacked by one of the conehead planes during his dialogue with Megatron, which is why he appears to be standing back up.

Yeah, the shuttle sequence was supposed to be significantly more gruesome, particularly with the deaths of Ratchet and Ironhide, being fused together.

And yes, Magnus was to be drawn and quartered in the script. The reason it's in the comic book adaptation is because they were working from the first draft of the script. (This is also why the comic book version refers to Autobot City as Fortress Maximus.) There's at least some evidence that part of the draw-and-quarter scene went into production, and they talk about it on the commentary. It's particularly evident in Robert Stack's performance and the way the Sweeps were animated.

The only "extra" content you get from the Japanese version of Transformers of the movie is all of the hammed-up adlibbing on the part of the actors. Scenes with no dialogue at all are now filled with chatter. For example, as Prime barrels through the city, every Decepticon he hits makes some sort of outburst. But the most annoying scene in which this occurs is Prime's death. There's a reason that there's no sound in the latter half of the scene, but this was totally lost on the Japanese. There are gasps as Prime's body goes dark, and they make sure to have Daniel bawl like a baby, even though kids his age don't really do that.

Although, that isn't quite as annoying as having every single character shout "TRANSFORRRRM!" every time they change. Seriously, why are they doing that? Goddamn, I hate the Japanese version of the movie. Anyone who tells me that it's superior to the American version needs to be pushed down a flight of stairs. You can die in a fire.

Heck, I have serious problems with the Japanese version of the Transformers franchise as a whole. The only one that was actually done somewhat well was Masterforce, although they couldn't resist having whiny kids in the show, either.

~Neil

http://www.dasiencomic.com/


]]> Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:27:42 -0500 Mr Neil http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4981 I wouldn't have mind http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4952 I wouldn't have mind listening to your take on the film. I hate to admit I haven't seen the film besides a few clips in my lifetime, at the time the film came out, I might've been burned out of the whole Transformers thing and moved on to something else. I can watch it now or later on home video and probably would think it was a pretty good film besides not having the same childhood memories you guys would have of it yourselves. I wouldn't have mind listening to your take on the film. I hate to admit I haven't seen the film besides a few clips in my lifetime, at the time the film came out, I might've been burned out of the whole Transformers thing and moved on to something else. I can watch it now or later on home video and probably would think it was a pretty good film besides not having the same childhood memories you guys would have of it yourselves.


]]> Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:43:16 -0500 Chris@StudioToledo http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4952 I think Andrew cut out some http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4848 I think Andrew cut out some of my complaining about the music. :) I think Andrew cut out some of my complaining about the music. :)


]]> Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:17:32 -0500 GogDog http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4848 I really like this soundtrack. http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4847 Do any of the DVD releases have a soundtrack-only feature? This might be one of the only movies where I'd use it. This movie is basically one long Transformers AMV. Do any of the DVD releases have a soundtrack-only feature? This might be one of the only movies where I'd use it. This movie is basically one long Transformers AMV.


]]> Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:24:06 -0500 RobotBastard http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4847 Good thing I wasn't on this podcast. http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4846 It's a good thing I wasn't on this podcast, or I would've spent the whole time talking about how this movie is a very awkward puberty metaphor and relating my tale of meeting the writer of the movie. Also I would have complained about the super crappy music. Did you know the buttrock was all intended for other movies with the exception of the theme? The Touch was supposed to be in a Rocky movie but was rejected. -Jeremy It's a good thing I wasn't on this podcast, or I would've spent the whole time talking about how this movie is a very awkward puberty metaphor and relating my tale of meeting the writer of the movie. Also I would have complained about the super crappy music. Did you know the buttrock was all intended for other movies with the exception of the theme? The Touch was supposed to be in a Rocky movie but was rejected.

-Jeremy


]]> Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:40:00 -0500 Destroy All Podcasts DX http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4846 I've heard that the http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4824 >I've heard that the "Japanese version" had some extra stuff, mostly in the "transform Autobot city" sequence. Is this true? Only in the ORIGINAL trailer do you see that. Oh and what you guys were saying about Ultra Magnus getting ripped apart. That was on the storyboard. I read somewhere that they wanted to have Megatron slice Brawn in half and Ironhide (or maybe Prowl) getting melted.

Only in the ORIGINAL trailer do you see that.

Oh and what you guys were saying about Ultra Magnus getting ripped apart. That was on the storyboard.

I read somewhere that they wanted to have Megatron slice Brawn in half and Ironhide (or maybe Prowl) getting melted.


]]> Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:05:39 -0500 Vincent Zobel http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3109%2523comment-4824