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Destroy All Podcasts DX Episode 65 - A Thousand & One Nights

Hosts: Feddy, Jeremy, Mike, Zuey

This is about HERE COMES A MAN NAMED ALDIN, cannibalistic snake women, and MC Escher sex.

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Here's a clip from A Thousand and One Nights. Yes, the entire movie is this incoherent.

Posted 10 August, 2008 - 20:38 by Destroy All Pod...

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Jeremy is RIGHT! ...sort of.

For simplicity, here's what it boils down to: Rotoscoping is A technique for animating from a live subject. It is not THE technique for animating from a live subject.

Rotoscoping only refers to a specific technique of capturing the movement of a human subject in a 2-D space via drawing. Nobody in the animation industry would include the motion capture techniques of the computer-animated Gollum as applied to Andy Sirkis' filmed performances as rotoscoping, simply because the technique is using a rendered 3D object, as opposed to a hand-drawn object. The similarity of using a filmed template is where the similarity abruptly ends.

And no, the "definitions change" argument doesn't apply here, because nobody in the animation industry would agree with you that the definition of rotoscoping has changed to include the sorts of techniques you're referring to. The definition of rotoscoping has changed little with the advance of technology.

So point one for Jeremy.

Now, there IS such a thing as digital rotoscoping, but again, it refers exclusively to frame-by-frame 2-dimensional animation techniques. It is still purely a drawing technique; not a rendering technique.

It does, however, extend beyond the scope that I think Jeremy is defining. For example, the Star Wars light sabers in the original trilogy are all rotoscoped, using trace silhouettes of the original wooden sticks. In the new trilogy, however, they're rendered digitally; not rotoscoped.

Also, the animation in the YouTube video that you provided does appear to be rotoscoped. Rotoscoping is a reference technique (i.e., wire-framing). It need not be exclusively applied to tracing. Even back in the 30s, when Disney was using rotoscope techniques to animate Snow White, the technique did not exclusively apply to tracing.

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Posted by 117ufcbetting on 9 August, 2008 - 16:03
Sounds like there were

Sounds like there were some weird combinations of lamia, cecaelia, and Gorgons in that island sex scene you described early on.

Me thinks me need to look for that scene on YouTube to confirm, but me no sure YouTube would allow on YouTube.
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Posted by EVA_Unit_4A on 10 August, 2008 - 18:06
Some updated thoughts...

I still say Jeremy's right anyway. The problem of course is how later technologies have come to erode it's intended definition, but it was originally meant to be the tracing of live-action anyway for animation sake. Max Fleischer was the inventor of the process.

Also, that little green guy in The Flintstones (who appeared in the very last season of the show) is The Great Gazoo.

Though they didn't mention her name, the woman Aldin steals and makes out with is Miriam, mother to Jalis, whom Aldin (posing as Sinbad) wanted to marry years later, if that helps to correct some confusion there.

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Posted by Chris@StudioToledo on 4 December, 2010 - 08:23