Destroy All Podcasts DX Episode 50 Side A - Destroy All Monsters
Hosts: Andrew, Feddy, Jeremy, Josh, Mike, Todd, Zuey
This is Side A of our of 50th Anniversary Special! The focus of our show is Destroy All Monsters, the movie that gave our podcast its name! However, before we get to that, it's a restrospective of all the great moments we've had here on Destroy All Podcasts over the years! Includes NEVER BEFORE HEARD FOOTAGE!
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| Posted 6 April, 2008 - 20:01 by Destroy All Pod... |
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14 comments postedSolid podcast, you guys are awesome 'n all that tat.
WHere is Side B already? Or is that next weeks show?
Thanks for the compliments!
And yes, Side B is next week's show. It was just wayyyy too long for one podcast. Next week!
-Jeremy
Rad.
Long podcasts are always good, when you have the time, that is.
Oh, and the 80 minute show about Macross TV or the 90 minute show about Fist of the North Star TV wasn't too long? Or is the rubber-suit monster movie review gonna be a whole hour?
Hater hater hater hater hater hater.
Actually, I like this podcast. I guess the previous post did come off a little rough. I was just pointing out they did really long shows in the past.
Even when they're really informative and entertaining (like the Fist of the North Star TV one was), I find that really long podcasts are hard to listen to. I think that about an hour is a good upper-limit for a podcast.
And even though giant monster movies can be fun to watch sometimes, you know it's just grown men in rubber suits dancing on a cheap model set in-front of a camera. There really isn't much denying that.
Just busting your balls. I drive in a work truck all day, so podcasts are what I mostly listen to. For that reason, I like long podcasts as it gives me more to listen to in a week.
We normally keep things under 45 minutes unless we've got a real good reason to do it, like the DYRL commentary, or if it's something we are completely obsessed with, like Macross. This was ~45 minutes of clips, then like 50 minutes of Destroy All Monsters, and I think that is pushing it. I'm also trying to trim down the DAM stuff, because that still sounds too long but we'll see what happens when that goes up this weekend. :) You will see why the DAM part is so long when it goes up.
-Jeremy
There "really isn't much denying" (huh?) that kaiju eiga involves actors in suits,allthough I will deny the sets are "cheap". (I doubt you've read Eiji Tsubuyara:Master of Monsters,or any other reference material.)
Of course,can you really deny that Macross is "just" a cartoon?
Sorry if I'm being a little overdramatic,but even though I'm totally used to people bashing pre-CGI movies,I never thought I'd see that kind of comment on a website about Mazinger Z action figures.
Macross is a cartoon/animated piece of material. It has a a very engaging story, mind-blowing mechanical designs, and a metric ton of J-pop. It's one of the first series that we Americans saw that broke the old idea that cartoons were just for kids. And more good anime followed to keep breaking that idea.
It is possible that monster movies can also be quality films. However, my exposure to monster movies has always been the really bad 1960s/1970s movies with campy plots and even campier special effects, the ones you see as a local UHF station Saturday afternoon movie. I am not currently aware of any quality monster movies. If I saw one, I'd probably change my mind about short dancing men in rubber suits.
Did you pick up the Appleseed Ex Machina movie? In one of the special feature clips, a producer talks about how Japanese giant robot and giant monster movies don't usually do as well in America. This producer makes the hypothesis that the American audience usually feels emotionally disconnected from things that are much larger than human size. The Alien, the Predator, and the Terminator are all human-size or at most 2 or 3 times human size. Appleseed supposedly works in the US because the cyborgs and the Landmates are about human size.
I think there is some truth to this hypothesis, but I'm pretty sure some people here will disagree.
Well,I don't see how Macross broke the idea in America that cartoons have to be for kids,since it came on after school with a pretty corny dub and was being aired to support a toyline.
That's really beside the fact,because I like Macross,and I also like Destroy all Monsters. I just fail to see how a cartoon about transformable robots and an idol singer who defeats war through the power of Jpop is an alltime classic thought provoking adult drama,but a dinosaur fighting aliens should be ridiculed.
Again,I like Macross,but an objective observer would be just as likely to say it's stupid.
As far as that hypothesis about Americans not liking "giant" monsters,(what about King Kong and Cloverfield?) I'd have to say it may have some truth,but I think it's mostly due to the stupid kneejerk "LOL RUBBAR SUTE" reaction.
Yeah, I agree with you. The Harmony Gold ROBOTECH audio for Macross has a very 'kids only' feel. Still, Harmony Gold did not cut out many of the adult elements such as the deaths of Roy Focker/Fokker and Kanzaki/Ben, the destruction of the Earth's surface, and Kaifun/Kyle's drinking. So I guess ROBOTECH was a step towards an more adult cartoon, not an adult cartoon itself.
ROBOTECH is like the plastic pull-ups you get to wear before you're ready for tighty-whities. That should go on the DVD case. :)
I saw the most recent King Kong in the theaters. I don't know why I didn't think of it as a monster movie. Of the big-budget 'giant' movies that have worked recently (Transformers 2007, King Kong, Cloverfield), they have gone out of their way to have very compelling human characters, and sometimes humanized the giant (especially in Transformers 2007 and King Kong). It's as if they're acknowledging the emotional gap the audience normally feels with the giant and they're trying to close that gap. Especially with the facial features.
I guess Japanese audiences can emotionally connect with the giants without them being humanized. They have different tastes than we do.
If you think Japanese produced daikaiju movies don't have compelling characters,then you haven't seen Don "The Predator" Frye of the UFC in his debut role in Godzilla Final Wars.
"Go right into it!"