Destroy All Podcasts DX Episode 174 - Cutey Honey
Hosts: D'Arcy, Jeremy, Mike
This is about playing dress up, detachable panther claws on your head, and creepy scientist fathers building sexy robot daughters.
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14 comments postedIt would pretty interesting for you guys to check out a couple of episodes of Cutie Honey F which is the version that went into Sailor Moon's time slot. It is one of those strange things where it directly takes from a show that was obviously inspired in part by it.
Yeah, we do plan to talk about that show in a bit! Thanks for the suggestion!
Several things:
-The moe version of Cutey Honey would be Gainax's Re:Cutey Honey
-Not all moe shows are overtly highly sexual. Stop saying that it is.
-You should review the new magical girl anime Puella Magi Madoka Magica to compare about how magical girls shows are done today. It's NOT what you think based on the official art. Something VERY bad happens in the third episode.
On topic, I really enjoyed this episode especially in regards to the cultural aspects of Japan's association with the media with regards to kids back in the 70's; got to admit Jeremy I'm envious of your crazy knowledge.
Off topic, VZ why do you have to turn every subject into some kind of random defence of moe? Just because people dislike your preferred subgenre of animation does not mean you have to act like a total 'white knight' and desperately defend it like your whole world revolves around it. Please keep your obsession with animated underage, 'cute' schoolgirls to yourself, it's a little frightening. :P
I'll keep defending moe to the death specifically because people like you don't understand it.
I ain't gonna stop you, besides if you can't stand the very thought of differing opinions then that makes your defence even more invalid. Also '...people like you don't understand it.' your no better than the A Serbian Film apologists who think new born rape connotes political messages and undertones about Eastern Europe. Believe me I have tried stepping into the waters of your preferred subgenre and much like A Serbian Film, they make me feel like a peadophile just for watching them.
It's not that I don't understand the context of the shows you haphazardly adore as they are about as shallow as the average modern MTV crap for me, but the fact that is almost exclusively all you apparently watch when it comes to animation in general that is what I don't understand.
Variety is the spice of life you know. One day I could be watching say Cutey Honey, another day I could be watching La Haine and then maybe a dash of Flash Gordon. A bit of diversity goes a long way, my friend.
I do understand that other people have different opinions. It's just that I can't stand back and let people badmouth moe without given its due and understanding.
"but the fact that is almost exclusively all you apparently watch when it comes to animation in general that is what I don't understand."
Except I don't. I watch lots of regular anime too (mostly mecha). About half of the mecha shows from the 80's and 90's I've seen are crazy awesome while the other half left me bored and disinterested.
I'm a hyper focused kind of guy, what can I say. I don't even play videogames anymore (except puzzle games made with flash).
"It's not that I don't understand the context of the shows you haphazardly adore as they are about as shallow"
Except they're not all shallow and many have lots of heart and and clearly well crafted, you just don't see that or you've been watching the wrong moe shows.
There's a reason why shows like K-On and Strike Witches sold so well in Japan. It's legitimately good.
I am aware you watch mecha shows which is why in my comment I said 'almost exclusively'; as a matter of fact I love myself a good old-fashioned space opera. However, just because shows sell by the truckload does not necessarily mean that they are of high quality to all audiences, an obvious example being Transformers 2 for instance.
Once again though, I can't fathom your constant use of 'you don't get it' sweeping statements; to be pretentious for a second, all art is subjective and open to interpretation, this includes the stuff you enjoy. You can have your opinions that the 'cute-girl' shows you watch are the greatest thing on Earth and I can have my views that shows like Strike Witches and what not are what puts me off a lot of the modern animation at the moment Asian or otherwise; I certainly don't see any 'heart' in those products.
I can forgive you for being 'hyper-focused' but I will say from looking at your posts on other blogs it seems you are trying too hard in getting your opinions across consequently sounding either forced or totally nuts. Stay with your niche if thats where you're comfortable with, but constantly going on and on AND ON about it will only bring more negative attention to you if you force people into 'getting it' especially with some of the disturbingly lewd fanart you had on your old blog. I will give you credit though, your mecha art was very good when I browsed it.
Maybe to you this whole conversation was pointless but as a fan of all animation, moe anime or whatever it's going to be called next week by the fanbase or self-proclaimed 'otaku's for me is a genre that is the current nadir of animation regardless of the country of origin. Sorry dude, that's how I feel.
Well, I do understand.
And I wanted to say, there are shows that I acknowledge are bad or just stupid but never the less enjoyable (like MM! or Milky Holmes), but there are moe and fanservice shows that are high quality , well written and/or have good wit (K-On!, Lucky Star, Bakemonogatari for example).
The reason I tend to be so vocal on the subject is that I wish other fans of mecha or just regular anime can be just as much a fan of moe. In my experience, I've come to notice that most fans of moe are also fans of mecha and are generally nice but straight up mecha (or regular anime fans) tend to be snobby and unwilling to give moe/fanservice anime a chance.
Fair enough I suppose, well unlike those people I did at least try and give shows like Lucky Star and Strike Witches a chance but I am certainly not one of the converted. Hell, in a perfect world I wish Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross was more recognised by people as I think it's a very entertaining bit of pulpy sci-fi animation, for me that show would be great even without it's ubiquitious mecha. At the end of the day though, fans should be given the choice to watch what they want to watch without unneeded coercion.
We as geeks wish over and over again for things we want other people to do and act like, but hey life is not like that. I'm glad you've given some reasoning for your arguments though, I may not agree with you but at least I have a little more respect for you than I did before. Peace out.
So we talk about important historical animation and we get one comment, maybe two or three if we're lucky.
Make a crack about moe and whoooooooooooooooaaaaa!!!
See, I don't get this thing. If you're being "ironic" and thinking it's funny to pretend to be a terrible person...it's really not as funny as you think. Yes, I know that all your friends laugh when you say outrageous things, but they're laughing the way an eight-year-old laughs when someone says "POOPIE".
If you aren't being ironic, then you're the kind of person who gives anime a bad name.
I'm never ironic. It's all pure 100% VZ, defender of the moeverse!
Also I changed my site name and avatar to match Anime CDX.
My apologies if I have ended up stinking up the comments section with this 'debate', I felt like I should have said something though.
On topic again though, I will say again it's nice to see the show tackle more influential animation. Especially Nagai's stuff as it rarely ever seems to leave it's native shores; as far as I am aware only the 90's OVA series New Cutey Honey was actually released along with the recent live action movie here in the west. I could be wrong though.
As far as I remember just the New Cutey Honey OAV from the 90's and Anno's live action movie were put out here.