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Destroy All Podcasts DX Episode 163 - Odin: Photon Space Sailer Starlight

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I'd just like to take this

I'd just like to take this moment to pour one out for The Nish, who passed away earlier this month.

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Posted by SpaceRunaway on 22 November, 2010 - 17:06
Pour One Out

Well, that's why we recorded this podcast! It was our way of pouring one out for Nishizaki.

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 23 November, 2010 - 13:40
Odin: I like it?!

Odin is really for me a total guilty pleasure, in essence it's a giant space opera mishmash of practically every overwrought sci-fi cliche that barely comes together cohesively; yet for me its so entertaining because of its slapdash approach to pacing and storytelling along with the at times wonderful visuals. I personally look at the film in two ways: Star Trek: The Motion Picture on acid and a weirdly fascinating failure almost like the animated equivalent to Highlander 2 or even Caligula in a way. Hell, I even own a theatrical poster for this film along with one for MD Geist; yes I am a strange guy.

If anything, at least Odin made me want to further research and discover Space Battleship Yamato so I'm grateful for that too.

Now if you will excuse me, Fist of the North Star: Kens Rage is calling me back. Cheers to you Nish.

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Posted by Invid Ninja on 22 November, 2010 - 17:39
Odin's Failings

Odin is one of those movies everyone remembers looked really nice but no one can remember how it ended. When we watched it for the podcast, it was literally the first time I ever got through the movie without falling asleep. Yamato is cool (especially Farewell to Space Battleship Yamato, the second movie), and this is kinda like that with better animation, but it's just not that great. You can tell they were trying hard, but there's zero emotion to anything in this movie and almost none of the characters have any personality at all, which is a shame.

At least with Star Trek: The Motion Picture you already KNOW the characters, so you don't NEED the movie to teach you who they are, and the actors already had built in chemistry, but Odin doesn't have that kind of crutch. I think it's pretty obvious Star Trek: The Motion Picture was trying to do 2001: A Star Trek Odyssey and it didn't work out. Maybe Nishizaki was trying to do 2001: A Yamato Odyssey? I don't know, but it's totally not a good movie.

The original version of Highlander II is such a gloriously incoherent mess, it was almost a shame when they tried to fix it. The Renegade version is just mediocre instead of a total trainwreck and you know I always prefer a trainwreck to mediocre!

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 23 November, 2010 - 14:04
'Puts hand up to play bagpipe music to a fan'.

It's true, I love a good trainwreck hence why I love these films as guilty pleasures. I guess for me, a truly bad film is one that is dull and has no cinematic merit whatsoever; 'cough' Prince of Persia 'cough'. Speaking of trainwrecks and hate to bring up bad memories for you but you gotta love the awfulness of Robotech: The Movie. Now that is truly a marvel of badness in and of itself and yes I own the original UK VHS of it.
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Posted by Invid Ninja on 23 November, 2010 - 17:56
Sigh.

Yeah, we podcasted on that one ages ago, but it hurts more knowing Megazone 23 is so fun.

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 23 November, 2010 - 21:30
I watch the full 2hour and

I watch the full 2hour and 10minute version of the movie today. Yes, the story is allover the place. I love the art though (character designs are standard 80's though).

Everything freaking glows in the movie. Should have invented a term like glowvision or something.

Oh and I LOVE the Loudness theme.

The reason why the movie didn't actually end was it was planned to be a trilogy. It bombed bad in Japan and why you saw stuff like Project A-Ko and Gall Force the year after.

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Posted by VZMK2 on 22 November, 2010 - 18:50
Trilogy

I realize it was intended to be the first of a trilogy, but it deserved to bomb! I do have the first volume of the Odin manga, but it's just an adaptation of the movie. I don't think they ever made manga that picked up where the film left off, so we'll just be searching for Odin, my love forever.

We also watched the full extended version. It is really long.

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 23 November, 2010 - 14:06
Hmmn, manga. Was it just take

Hmmn, manga. Was it just take screen grabs from the film and make that into a comic (they have those, my brother had a Mothra one and I have an English one of Gundam 0083) or was it an actual drawn manga?

One scene in particular made me say "they just watched Tron, didn't they?" when you see the enemy soldiers glowing red.

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Posted by VZMK2 on 24 November, 2010 - 08:09
Odin Manga

No, it's an actual manga. Some guy had to go and draw it all. It's not frame grabs. The style is a bit different and I actually think the character designs are a little more distinctive in the manga version, but it's still obviously an adaptation and not a sequel.

Tron never occurred to me. I'm pretty used to see that *light behind the cel* glowing effect from '80s animation. Transformers: The Movie loooooooved this effect.

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 24 November, 2010 - 19:42
You Can Tell

You can tell we were excited to talk about this since no one could shut up!

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 24 November, 2010 - 13:35