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Destroy All Podcasts DX Episode 100 Side A - Megazone 23

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"You already did this one!"

...is what I thought at first. And then I completely forgot that it was a Robotech show. How easily my brain tries to shut off all recollection to Robotech: The Movie and its anti-gravity chamber that looks suspiciously like he blackness of space. "The FUUUUUTURE IS NOW!"

Unfortunately, I've never actually seen Megazone 23 in its unbutchered form. How sad is that? I haven't even seen the Streamline dub.

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Posted by 117ufcbetting on 1 June, 2009 - 09:07
Robotech The Abortion

Wait, so you've seen Robotech The Movie but not Megazone 23? Cleanse thyself! Go see Megazone 23!

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 2 June, 2009 - 12:49
You'd be surprised how many

You'd be surprised how many out there may've done the same too. These people need to be cleansed!

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Posted by Chris@StudioToledo on 4 June, 2009 - 09:45
Darn you, Carl Macek!!!

Hahaha... It's not a disease. It's just a byproduct of being introduced to anime in the 90s. Thank you, Carl Macek.

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Posted by 117ufcbetting on 4 June, 2009 - 17:01
Uh no.

That doesn't make any sense. Robotech The Movie came out in the '80s and barely came out at that. It was test marketed in Texas and never got a wide release and was only released on video in places in Europe and South America.

Megazone 23 on the other hand was pretty widely available in America through Streamline and then later ADV.

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 5 June, 2009 - 04:21
You are WAY too analytical

I said it was a byproduct of being introduced to anime in the 90s. THE FACT THAT I HAD NOT SEEN MEGAZONE 23 PROPERLY. I didn't say that I had seen Robotech The Movie in the 90s. I wasn't even talking about that. Read the person I was replying to. Jeez.

Truth be told, I never saw Megazone 23 on cassette back then. Ever. It wasn't like today where, even if the local stores aren't carrying it, you can get it online. My video store didn't have it. It simply wasn't available to me, and I didn't even know it existed. I never thought to get it, and I had never seen any version of it until recently, when I saw Robotech: The Abortion.

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Posted by 117ufcbetting on 5 June, 2009 - 13:11
Analytical?

I'm way too analytical? Have you heard the podcast?

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 5 June, 2009 - 21:51
Well, okay. You got me

Well, okay. You got me there. ;)

By the way... Looking forward to the second half of this.

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Posted by 117ufcbetting on 5 June, 2009 - 21:59
Sad. I saw the Streamline

Sad. I saw the Streamline dub long before ADV came out with theirs. I don't really care much for ADV's dub but found the commentary track pretty amusing.

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Posted by Chris@StudioToledo on 4 June, 2009 - 09:44
Streamline vs. ADV

I saw the dub only Streamline/Orion VHS to start with. It's a terrible dub, but it's terrible in the hilarious way that gives you good things to sample at the end of a podcast. ADV's dub is technically more competent, but pretty bland. I do like the constant '80s language they shove into it, but that's about it. I also thought it was weird that they would spend all that time on '80s lingo and then have someone say "my bad", which is definitely '90s slang, but whatever.

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 4 June, 2009 - 10:06
In some way, I guess I liked

In some way, I guess I liked the previous dub as it didn't try to say "this is the 80's" as ADV used, but I would give them props for trying to be authentic. I usually felt the intentions of the film was that it was meant to be present-day Tokyo anyway despite it's dated appearance. People who first saw it 20 years ago probably thought that way too obviously. In some way, it's like watching "Back to the Future" and picking out those moments in Marty's 1985 you might still remember in your heart. I was 7/8 years old in '85, so I can understand in that sense what things were like, unlike some who might dislike the 80's based on the trends and fads associated with it.

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Posted by Chris@StudioToledo on 4 June, 2009 - 18:52
Good review of one of the

Good review of one of the best OVA's. I didn't know BD stood for BAD DUDE, and I even have a MZ23 art book.

Also, since you touched on Toshihiro Hirano, you NEED to review Iczer-1, my favorite OVA.

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Posted by VZMK2 on 1 June, 2009 - 09:54
Iczer

I think Star and Betty were intrigued by the high concept of "lesbians in space", so perhaps we will tackle that.

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 2 June, 2009 - 12:50
I've seen it, too

It's much less interesting than they're probably imagining.

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Posted by RobotBastard on 2 June, 2009 - 14:04
Lesbians

In the sense of "not much lesbian action"?

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 2 June, 2009 - 14:12
100th!

Congrads on your 100th episode!

Leonardo Flores
CollectionDX Staff Writer-West Coast Bureau

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Posted by Modcineaste on 1 June, 2009 - 15:30
Gracias!

Thanks!

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 2 June, 2009 - 12:51
Great Review!

I love the insanity of Megazone. A perfect review. And the Yamato toy gives me a chubby every time I touch it.

Hey, instead of flogging your intern you should just turn your phones off during recording. :)

Hi Star!

xo

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Posted by Tardbot5000 on 1 June, 2009 - 22:01
Intern

Glad you enjoyed the podcast! The reason the intern got a flogging is that she is the one who had the cell on while we were recording. She was apparently txting the whole time and I didn't realize it, or I would have yelled at her to stop!

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 2 June, 2009 - 12:53
Grrrrrrrrrr.... Interns....

Grrrrrrrrrr.... Interns....

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Posted by Tardbot5000 on 3 June, 2009 - 01:41
80s computer!

I think even despite its size, Bahamut will crash if it tries to play Crysis.

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Rob
The Gundam Model Guy

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Posted by Gunpla Rob on 1 June, 2009 - 22:19
Crash

If Bahamut crashes, does that mean the world de-1980s until it reboots?

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 2 June, 2009 - 12:55
Didn't know what B.D. stood

Didn't know what B.D. stood for until I heard this podcast, so I learned something new today!

Thinking of the produce placement in the film, I'm also reminded of "Cream Lemon" and other stuff getting stuck on a computer monitor panel elsewhere in the film as well (not to mention a truck with the logo of the releases of this OVA, Victor).

Speaking of Victor, I have the original VHS edition of Megazone 23 that was released in Japan for 13,800 yen. The cover isn't anything to write home about though. Mostly a shot of Yui's head with Shogo seen standing by it to the right, though his skin is painted the same color as Yui's hair. Perhaps it was more a stylistic comment they made of the guy in the film this way, much in the similar manner of the dating segment that some of you have complained about as being cheap, when in fact, it's probably one of those artsy things they tried for an OVA at a time when they were just starting up. I didn't find the dating segment that bad myself, but the sex scene is pretty bizarre to the right people!

That ending shot of Shibuya or such Jeremy mentioned was also seen on my VHS copy, but for whatever reason, it was originally rendered a lot poorer in it's original incarnation, but redone shortly later. I enclosed a screengrab from my tape for comparisons.
http://img525.imageshack.us/i/pdvd010qj8.png/
http://img517.imageshack.us/i/pdvd011vy5.png/

Someone in another forum mentioned that to me as well. I guess in subsequent releases they fixed this, but it's neat finding a rare gem of a gaffe on my tape!

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Posted by Chris@StudioToledo on 4 June, 2009 - 09:53
Edits

Hmm, that's interesting. If you REALLY care, there's a couple of one or two second out of doors shots in the ADV DVD release that are not in the Streamline/Orion VHS, Streamline/Image DVD, or my old VHS fansub. I will have to get out my old VHS fansub and compare the ending shots of Tokyo... perhaps my VHS fansub comes from the original Victor VHS.

There's also two versions of the sex scene in part II. One version (the version on my VHS fansub) is shorter than the version on the ADV DVD of part II.

I would really love a nice big scan of the original Victor VHS if you could supply it, Chris! Thanks for the comment!

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 4 June, 2009 - 10:01
More MG23 goodness...

Hmm, that's interesting. If you REALLY care, there's a couple of one or two second out of doors shots in the ADV DVD release that are not in the Streamline/Orion VHS, Streamline/Image DVD, or my old VHS fansub. I will have to get out my old VHS fansub and compare the ending shots of Tokyo... perhaps my VHS fansub comes from the original Victor VHS.

It could've. Another noticeable bit is when Shogo walks out into the background as the camera starts to zoom out, there's a dissolved shot of Yui's face that is seen for a moment before it goes away, this isn't present on the VHS edition as well, so I would assume those bits were improvements/redo's they did sometime later after the tape was released.

There's also two versions of the sex scene in part II. One version (the version on my VHS fansub) is shorter than the version on the ADV DVD of part II.

Hmm, I thought I read that someplace too. I also have a tape of the original English dub made in the 80's as well, not sure what sex scene was used in there if they had used it (the one with "Johnny Winters" and "Suzy Sue").

I would really love a nice big scan of the original Victor VHS if you could supply it, Chris! Thanks for the comment!

I could do better than that. I also have a copy of Megazone 23 Part II on VHS as well with a pretty nifty cover as well. Both tapes also have folded inserts which mostly gives out detailed info on the characters and mechs seen in both films.

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Posted by Chris@StudioToledo on 4 June, 2009 - 18:49
Megazone

Well, my fansub definitely has the shorter sex scene than on the ADV DVD. Yeah, please, hook me up! Send me an email at feedback at destroyallpodcastsdx dot com?

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Posted by Destroy All Pod... on 5 June, 2009 - 04:26
 
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